i think it should be Emma and Jo

quick question: is anyone debating who Emma should marry?

because if not someone should start it.........

[i probably just started something] *rolls eyes*

As much as I want to say Emma I agree with you @Ginny Weezly yhst would be awkward so I have to say weezie

Even though we both read Ember's End, a friend and I nearly started a war on Picket on several occasions, one was shipping and the other was if Picket betrayed Helmer.....

I feel like I'm coming into this a bit late, but I ship #Jemma, so I guess that makes me a #Peezie shipper by default. Picket might have had feelings for Emma, but after he found out that she was a princess, it turned their relationship into a soldier-protecting-his-monarch relationship instead of a husband/wife one. Jo didn't change how he saw Emma after he found out, so that's why they are perfect for each other.

Picket & Weezie. I do think that the brother/sister in law marrying thing is a little weird...

I'm not sure I've ever given my opinion on this subject, though even in Golden Coast I've read and been entertained by you guys' debates. So: I really like Emma. And Picket. But they act like siblings too much for me to see them get married. They're great friends, but I think it's nothing more than that. I don't think there's anything wrong with Pick and Heather marrying siblings, but it doesn't seem like S. D. Smith would do that.

Also, don't get me wrong: I don't especially like Weezie. There's nothing really wrong with her, it's just her character hasn't developed enough yet. I don't know her well enough because she was just introduced (taking into account the fact that Ember Rising was released nearly a year ago). Maybe once Mr. Smith develops her character more, I won't have any objections. She could be an awesome character. I think the main objection to her is that we all know and love Emma well, but we just met Weezie.

Another point is that Emma & Jo would be really cute. They always joke around, etc. There's probably more I haven't seen yet because I'm still not finished with The First Fowler, but I think they would be good for each other. There might be something with that lord's son, Morgan, but I don't really like him. Emma knows Jo much better.

So there are my thoughts. In conclusion, I think Picket will most likely end up with Weezie. The story seems to be leaning towards her and not Emma.

Did I do that again?!

Pick and Emma. They were first, they'll be last. Just watch (I hope).

Sorry, think I sent that to the wrong thing.

Personally, I like to stick with the original. While I think Wezzie and Picket are cute, just go back to The Green Ember and you'll see what I mean. Plus it means both Heather and Picket will be royalty!

E: So, you must be Weezie oh! That makes this round easy. Yes, my name is Emma some would call me the gem of the north you better know your worth yea, tighten your girth love, because, you? No one has heard of. Me? I am a freakin Queen! Oh, you poor baby! Did you lose your daddy? So did I! Not once but twice, sure I was raised in a little paradise, but at least I didn’t have a knife to my throat, honey dear, you might want to take a note, cuz these rhymes are so dope even I have to stop.

lol this is a response to my own prompt, I feel like I am the only one doing any of the prompts...

The Return Of Shuffler :3

W: Clearly Picket didn’t get his point across, he wants me, not the spoiled sister of his tiny boss. He said it, clear as day! He wants me, not your stupid face. I am Picket’s, and he is mine. Do you need any proof? Look up page 429!

@Ginny Weezly Wait. What if Picket dies at the end of Ember ends?

THEN NO ONE GETS HIM *continues with evil laughter

This just keeps going, don't it? I think maybe every time someone continues this debate, I'll sing another verse...

It's the debate that never ends,

It just goes on and on, my friends,

Some people started arguing not knowin' what it was,

And they will keep on arguing forever just because

It's the debate that never ends...

You have heard my arguments in favor #emmet. I am ready to take on any arguments to the contrary. I am ready for you

I like both i am on the neutral side, but tbh I am just saying the most probable, not the most liked.

bc #peezie is the most probable, while I could but won't say that #emmet is the most liked.

Everyone made great points in this discussion! (And, people who are not involved in this debate, we are sorry for spamming everything up. I apologize for all involved.)

I am a tad late to the party, and I think everyone knows which side I take (For those who don't, three words: Down with Weezie.)

I can totally see how someone would, ya know, ship Picket and Weezie. I've thought about it some, and now I think I know my main objection to the whole #Peezie thing.

If she wasn't attached to Picket romantically, I'd be fine with her. But that's all- she'd just be fine. Not exceptional in any way.

When I was reading Ember Rising for the first time, I disliked Peezie from the start. Why?

Because it felt contrived. It was like S. D. had realized just a little too late that there would be something that would make it weird for Emma and Pick to get together (IDK what, maybe a weird family relation or something? Who knows what he has up his sleeve?) and so was like, "Um, forget everything that I implied about Pick and Emma in the last two books, here's a love interest, let's just crop her up out of nowhere and make her perfect in every single way, and after a few days of doing, IDK, Resistance things, let's have them go all boyfriend-girlfriend on us! And boom, the plot is solved!"

I'm pretty sure that's not what he meant to do, but that's what it seemed like to me.

If Peezie happened, it just wouldn't have the depth of #Emmet. There wouldn't be the backstory and history of Emmet, the slow blooming of friendship into love.

My two cents worth, call me if you need anything.

(Well, don't actually call me, cuz that would be creepy, but ya know. Just @ me.)

Here are my argumuments against Kate's. This is a reposting of what I already wrote but they were buried in replies.

1. Weezie made Picket laugh in a dark depressing place. Emma (along with Maggie Weaver and Helmer) helped Picket process the (What they thought) was the death of their parents and younger brother and help them learn about the actual world. Weeize made Picket laugh, Emma stopped Picket from pouting. Weeize created happiness for a moment, Emma patiently, kindly, and encouragingly helped Picket become a new rabbit, a rabbit who knew true joy.

2. Picket and Emma haven’t really talked since Picket found out about Emma being a princess. I think that if they had a chance to talk to each other without having to defend each other and spend every waking hour making a plan to save all rabbitkind then they could find out that nothing has changed. Also I think that Emma and Jo haven’t had enough time together to really see if they are right for each other but we should see more in The First Fowler.

3. I think that Picket can still fall into depression again. Think about things later after the book ends. If Heather dies first then will a kick in the britches help him get over that? Or when Helmer dies? In times like that, Picket will need kind words from Emma not blunt words from Weezie.

4. You didn’t refute this point

5. Sheltered was the wrong word. I don’t know what is. Emma has been a medic for soldiers on the outskirts of the battle while Weezie has been hiding on a farm in the middle of the battle. Weezie might have heard or seen more from a distance, Emma has been there in person. Weezie is stronger but I don’t find her more mature or at least developed enough to seem more mature. Also Emma has only been less stable after Picket and Emma parted ways. Before then she was very stable but when she had the whole weight of the kingdom on her shoulders she weakened but she is still standing, How would Weezie handle the whole kingdom? We don’t know.

6. I agree that it would be good for Picket to join Helmer’s family but I think that he is pretty much already in it. “Helmer is the closest thing to family I have” (Ember Rising page 228)

Don't kill me or anything...

But I kinda like the idea of #Keather

I personally am for picket+ wezzie

Like Ian G. said,"Here we go again." This is one of the longest debate we normal had on the old page.#beenthroughitall

@Ginny Weezly I agree, even though it would be cute for him to have a girl it most likely won't happen.

(Unless we get a prequel about Helmer and he did have someone but lost her? *Cough Sam listen*)

This is really hard to follow...

I'm #Heals #Emmet and #Helmerneedssomeone

I also feel that when Mr smith came out with bk 3 and we met Weezie it kind of canceled out the ship, I think Sam did all the complicated stuff to stop emmet, I have seen plenty of authors do it before. The Erin hunter team and tui Sutherland are good examples. I have done it myself. And as I have said before and my fan fiction speaks true, they would not be happy knowing (Jo and Louise) weren't.

Also, Louise was the name of my nana. So I am drawn to her like that.

one true pair(I love all of the ships) I don't care as long as our boi is happy

Okay I am here and ready to do this for the third time. First of all I am debating who Picket SHOULD end up with not who he WILL end up with. It is a fine distinction that must be made mainly because I find S. D. Smith unpredictable so having the debate of WILL won't work.

Here are my points:

1. Picket and Emma are better at encouraging each other. So far Emma and Picket have been encouraging each other while Picket has done all of the encouraging for Weezie.

2. Emma needs Picket. Emma is struggling with having the responsibility of having the kingdom under her and she needs Picket to be her rock.

3. Picket needs Emma. If Picket becomes Shuffler again then Weezie can't deal with that, she is not secure enough to handle with Picket being depressed and snappy with her. While Emma has been a healer so she deals with sad and depressed people all the time.

4. Weezie is underdeveloped. She is still an underdeveloped character so she and Picket need more time together if they were to get married. But she get better developed in the next book.

5. Weezie is not ready. Emma and Picket are both more mature since they have been thrown in tough situations but Weezie has been sheltered. She knows of the war but has not been allowed to leave her farm. If Picket and Weezie are to get married they need to get married in the epilogue when Weezie has more time to heal and mature.

I have a few more points but I think this is enough for now.

I really want Picket/Emma!!! I just can't imagine Picket/Weezie.

Don’t we already have two threads on this particular shipping war?

Here we go again... to quote Gavin, "TERRORS TERRORS TERRORS COMING COMING COMING!!!"

#Peezie! Even though #Emmet was very appealing (and looks so much better in a hashtag), Picket will definitely end up with (and belongs with) Weezie. Not only would that make Picket officially related to Helmer but it would also be totally awesome!! Weezie has such a fiery personality with just enough humour/sass to satisfy me. Also, I think Picket is too loyal to Emma as a soldier to get romantically involved. Anywho, he already kind of "rejected" her in the last book (I'm guessing ya'll noticed that?).

Picket/Emma totally!!!