I enjoy military strategy, so here is an interesting thought
What weapon it the most effective in a rabbit's paws?
I would guess a small bow. Since a rabbit isn't large or strong, a bow is a good weapon for taking out your enemy without having to go hand to hand with them. Since wolves don't often wear armor, they are pretty easy to kill with an arrow, and birds eyes are pretty large even though they wear armor.
I am not sure what weapon would be best if they had to fight an enemy face to face though?? They wouldn't want a large sword or pole weapon because (as stated before) they are not strong. Their strength is in their agility and being small (a hard target to hit)( it is a blessing and a curse). A short sword would work well with their abilities, but a spear might work better. Maybe a good old mace. What do you think?
This may interest you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Rw8vTiwVo
Which will allow you to overwhelm the garrison.
Or you may be trying to scare other towns into surrender without a siege so you burn it to send a message. Overall however I don’t think that burning towns down was a really good idea. Again most sieges ended in a negotiated surrender.
As to the use of fire (supposing there is no one there you care about) it depends on what is the situation. Burning the town would not get you the stuff you want historically (read $$$), that being said you may want to burn it if you can’t hold it, or you really need to get in.
Is the town fortified?
@Power Here is a video of modern people using pikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-ILV0wKgAU
The Bowstriker is my absolute favorite! How could anyone possibly not get jumping-up-and-down-exited about rabbits using ballistas with bomb tips?
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https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquaries-journal/article/face-of-battle-debating-arrow-trauma-on-medieval-human-remains-from-princesshay-exeter/635CF25C2252F62EAD82C124224914A4
This may interest you. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/medieval-arrows-inflicted-injuries-mirror-damage-caused-modern-bullets-180974845/
When I get home in June I will have a look at my personal library to see if there is any other book that might be of interest.
Strategikon is another work you may want to look at. It has traditionally been attributed to the Byzantine Emperor Maurice, and is one of the more important military texts from the Middle Ages. The text consists of 12 chapters, or "books", on various aspects of the tactics employed by the Byzantine military of the 6th and 7th century A.D. It is primarily focused on cavalry tactics and formations, yet it also elaborates on matters of infantry, sieges, baggage trains, drilling and marching. This pars well the previous book I mentioned as it demonstrates the changes in tactics from Ancient Rome to Medieval Byzantium. Another book I would suggest is Fatal Colors: Towton, 1461-England’s Most Brutal Battle, this book, although primarily an account of the Wars of the Roses up to the Battle of Towton, does discuss how armies were organized and how Medieval battles usually worked. The Battle of Towton was a very large battle with around 50,000 troops combined, and was exceedingly brutal. One other good point of the book is describing the fates of those who were wounded in battle (particularly by arrow fire), but some of the descriptions are not for the faint of heart. I really liked this book when I read it, and many of my ideas on how a Rabbit army would likely be formed comes from this book, with a cross from the height of the Pike and Shot era. I am also including a link to the copy of The Art of War that I own; I suggest reading it over listening to it. I should note this work contains the Seven Military Classics, but I have not read all of them, though they are on my list.
https://www.amazon.com/Military-Classics-Ancient-History-Warfare-ebook/dp/B00336ET1O
I will start with one right now and will get you two others tomorrow. The first is De re militari (Concerning Millinery Matters) by Vegetius. This work is very important as it not only describes the organization of the Roman army but was also an important source for Medieval warfare as well, as this work was used by Medieval commanders for the organization and tactical employment of armies.
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I have read The Art of War its good, if you like military strategy it is important to read as many militaries recommend their officers read it and it is one of the seminal and well-known works of military theory, along with Clausewitz's On War. I will provide a partial list tomorrow, almost all of my books are back home in the US, and not with me in Scotland. When I get back home in June, I will provide more books you might be interested in, as I will have my entire library at my disposal to reference.
That would be great! Have you listened to "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu? I haven't, but I have the opportunity, and I would like to know if it's good.
As I said before, different situations call for different weapons, a 1v1 fight I would give a rabbit a sword, for the light skirmishers, swords bows/crossbows, or maybe spears would be appropriate. If you are interested in some books where I get some of the knowledge relating to the warfare of the Ancient and Medieval Eras, I would be happy to provide them.
Ok you win!!! lol It's kind of cool to me to see the giant web of weapon and what they are good at. Pike beats sword, bill beats pike, light artillery beats bill, and so on in a giant circle. Thanks for debating the topic with me.
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You are looking at skirmishes, pikes, I agree, would not be effective in such instances. Furthermore, some of the actions you mention were surprise attacks, in which any army would do poorly, look at the Teutoburg Forest in real history. If you are looking at battles proper (where everyone knows there is going to be a battle), pikes would be the main weapon because of their utility, both on the offensive and the defensive. The books do give examples of military offensives, the Red Valley War comes to mind, the along with the other unnamed and undiscussed conflicts of Jupiter and his father. The defensive posture of the rabbits in the books makes since because their kingdom, and thus their army, collapsed had had to be rebuilt, which makes sense for a more reactive posture. Again, even the engagements you mention where you had armies fully deployed, the main actions took place on open land. The evidence of the books demonstrates that rabbits (except their light forces) use massed infantry formations which would not be useful in the woods, and they would have to use such formations as the level of communications technology demands such formation. Yes, you do have lighter more elite or crack units that will be trained to operate in looser formations, as would be required, for scouting and protecting flanks. But those units are the exception not the rule, and the attack on Cloud Mountain, in the first book, the rabbits suffer heavily because they were unable to deploy full-fledged military formations, in the set piece battles, where you would see infantry formation, they do suffer heavily, but also inflict far greater damage. Additionally, you can protect your flanks by ensuring that they are anchored on some terrain features and ensuring that they are not in the air (as the rabbits did at Rockback Valley). I would disagree that the artillery was only used against birds, in Rockback Valley the rabbits do use them against wolves, yes these weapons may have been primarily used as anti-air weapons, but it seems clear that rabbits were quite willing and keen on using them as field artillery against ground forces.
As to the citadels being woods, yes, they do seem to be, but you still need lots of open land to train troops and assemble armies to go on expeditions, and land for farming. It takes a lot of space to assemble troops and their baggage train, even if some of the troops muster underground you need a lot of space to keep units for getting in each other’s way.
As to the sizes of armies I would suggest (at least before the collapse of the kingdom) between c.7,000-16,000 front line troops per army. This falls well within the size of Medieval armies, and the size of an Imperial Roman Army at the height of the Roman Empire, and as rabbits demonstrate a level of political military organization at least on par with Imperial Rome, I do not think that such numbers are unrealistic.
The main reason that rabbits use there heavy artillery is because of the birds. In the woods they may lose these weapons, but the number of birds is also lowered extremely... maybe, since the rabbits can't be seen by the birds it's hard for the birds to fight the rabbits (It's hard to fight something you can't see). In the books there are times when rabbit attack (I am not counting counter attacks) (The Fight for First Warren 1, Reconnaissance in the Terralain camp, The overthrow of Akolan... ), but in most instances fights between rabbits and wolves/birds/dragons/and other rabbits the first rabbits aren't the ones attacking (The Battle of Ayman lake, The Longtreader house attacking, Wolf attack on the Bracer. The first battle for Cloud Mountain, The attack on Halfwind, The second battle for Cloud Mountain... ). Also quite a few of the fights do happen in the woods (at least part of the fight)(Probably since most of the citadels are in or near woods.)(The Longtreader house attacking, Wolf attack on the Bracer. The first battle for Cloud Mountain, The attack on Halfwind, Rescue of Queen Lilly ....) In most of the fights (not just the ones in the story, but also the ones never told that probably did happen) there wasn't a large number of Rabbits (small groups are attacked because they are easier to beat)(rabbits normaly don't attack wolves). If the rabbits used pike and there were few rabbits it could turn out pretty disastrous. Once pikes are flanked they get destroyed.
Hopefully all this is true. If not, sorry